Thomas Rowley Update

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There are three sections

The DNA Testing and Simeon Lord

Note this only refers to the fifth born child Eliza. Perhaps more DNA testing will add more interesting possibilities.

The First Wife

    Who she was is unclear. She died on the Pitt on the way to Australia. In the main Thomas page I come down for Elizabeth Eyre, but there are lots of trees on Amcesry voting for Elizabeth Friend.
re Elizabeth Rowley (believed 1st wife of Thomas Rowley) on ‘Pitt':

Comment from Rhonda Kroehnert
Just wondering if you have come across the where Smee got his information on the names of the soldiers wives listed in ‘Fourth Fleet Families in Australia’?
After many years of looking I have been unable to find this information.

The following is an email correspondence I had from Marion Starr, author of 'Unhappy Exiles, Convicts of the Pitt & Kitty 1792’ (website: Unhappy Exiles - Convicts of the Pitt & Kitty 1792 (pittandkitty1792.blogspot.com)
...........“Unfortunately the early transports did not keep detailed surgeon’s journals as occurred with later voyages, so there is no precise information about the people who died on the voyage, only contemporary letters. On 22 October 1791, Francis Grose sent a letter from Rio to Evan Nepean to advise him of the voyage to that stage, and included was a general list (no names only rank) of the soldiers and families of the NSW Corps on the Pitt. There were 62 men, 11 women and 6 children listed on the return. It was noted that 13 privates, 5 women and one child, had died since the ship left England. I presume that Smee has used this evidence to conclude that Elizabeth Rowley was one of these women as I am not aware of any other documents providing details of deaths on board, apart from that of the convicts and crew who deserted or died during the voyage.  Unlike earlier years there was no ‘Fourth Fleet’ in 1792 as the three ships that arrived that year, sailed on single voyages.
The list sent from Grose to Nepean on 22 Oct. 1791 is included in my book – pp. 31-33. The reference is also included – Banks Papers, Brabourne Collection, Vol 3, Aust. 1786 – 1800 p.147; Reel FM4/1747 ML; HRNSW Vol 1, part 2, pp. 525 -6"

Link to Letter from Pam Fulton (below)

    This was provoked by the DNA information but is a generally interesting discussion. Pam like myself is a descendant of Thomas II. I have copied verbartim the relevant parts of her thiughtful letter

Link to a letter from Lynne Barnett (below)

 This is a very thoughtful discussion from the lady who started the DNA story

The DNA Testing, Simeon Lord and Eliza Rowley

This update starts with an email received in February 2023, but Ian Ramage, writing 40 or 50 years ago, is entitled to have the first word
        16.29    Despite the earnest endeavours of many descendants, no parish register record of the birth in 1804, or subsequent baptism, of Eliza Rowley, the fifth child of Thomas Rowley and Elizabeth Selwyn has, so far as I am aware, been located. Perhaps, an explanation is that Thomas Rowley had temporarily abandoned Elizabeth Selwyn and transferred his affection to another young convict lass, Jane Mickle.

In Februart 2023 I received an email which said
    In an article published in the Australian Law Journal this year (contents page here: https://sites.thomsonreuters.com.au/journals/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2023/01/Westlaw-AU-%E2%80%93-ALJ-Vol-96-No-12-Contents.pdf ), Professor Katy Barnett of Melbourne Uni and her mother Lynne have suggested in passing that their ancestress, one (I can’t remember which) of Rowley’s natural daughters acknowledged in his will might in fact be the daughter of Simeon Lord!  This is said to be on the basis of DNA results (presumably theirs) indicating consanguinity with known descendants of Simeon Lord.  I’m not sure if they have excluded the alternative possibility, which is that others of Simeon Lord’s children were in fact Rowley’s.

Glenn Rowley then pointed me to the following material on Wikitree (Information available on the main Thomas page hase been deleted)
There are lots of links in the original Wikitree, which I recommend visiting
Simeon Lord (1772 - 1840)
Born 11 Jul 1772 in Walsden, Lancashire, England
Son of Charles Lord and Betty (Haigh) Lord
Brother of Elizabeth Lord [half], Sally Lord [half], John Lord [half], Hannah Lord [half], Nelly Lord [half] and Charles Lord [half]
Husband of Mary (Hyde) Lord — married 1814 in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Father of Eliza (Rowley) Briggs, Simeon Lord, Edward Lord, George William Lord and Robert Charles LorDied 29 Jan 1840 at age 67 in Botany, New South Wales, Australia.
Research Notes

Daughter Eliza Rowley: Eliza Rowley was born in 1804. Her mother was Elizabeth Rowley nee Selwyn, wife of Thomas Rowley, and Eliza was raised as the daughter of Thomas Rowley. However it appears (from DNA testing) that Eliza's biological father was Simeon Lord.

AncestryDNA results for Lyn Venn (nee Triggell) have, on ThruLines, a number of connections/matches for Elizabeth Selwyn, but absolutely NIL matches for Thomas Rowley. There was a "mystery" group of matches, that did not have a paper connection to Lyn's family line. This group had Simeon Lord in their tree. Simeon Lord (convict) arrived Sydney in 1791. Thomas Rowley arrived Sydney in 1792. Simeon Lord was an assigned convict to Thomas Rowley. Eliza "Rowley" is the result of a liaison between Elizabeth Selwyn and Simeon Lord, in the end of July, 1803.

(https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lord-1792)_

Eliza (Rowley) Briggs (1804 - 1882)

Born 25 Apr 1804 in Newtown, New South Wales, Australia
Daughter of Simeon Lord and Elizabeth Selwyn
Eliza was raised as the daughter of Thomas Rowley. However it appears (from DNA testing) that Eliza's biological father was Simeon Lord.
Please note - The biological father of Eliza Rowley, is NOT Thomas Rowley. The biological father of Eliza Rowley, is Simeon Lord. Explanation:- The results of the AncestryDNA test for Lyn Venn (nee Triggell), has ThruLines showing a number of fellow contacts/matches for Elizabeth Selwyn, and absolutely no contacts/matches for Thomas Rowley. Among Lyn's DNA matches, were a "mystery" group, who, upon checking their trees, descended - from Simeon Lord. Simeon Lord (convict) arrived N.S.W. before Thomas Rowley. He was assigned to Thomas Rowley, after Thomas landed in 1792. Simeon Lord's and Elizabeth Selwyn's liaison would have been late July 1803.

Comment from Rhonda Kroehnert
I would be interested to know where Eliza’s birth date 25 April 1804 and place ie Kingston, Newtown came from.  
I believe that no baptism has been found in all the research done by many including the wonderful Ian Ramage.  I recently searched the NSW Birth, Death & Marriage index under Rowley, Selwyn & Lord to no avail.
Her birth date is recorded as 25 April 1804 on the Waverley cemetery website, and also on many family trees.  The date may have been recorded on the original vault at Kingston when she died in 1882, and copied when interred in the Waverley vault in 1884 (re Eliza Elizabeth Rowley Briggs), or maybe from a family bible!    
Also, one wonders why she was not baptised like her siblings within months of their birth dates!

Thank you to Andrew Gray for creating Rowley-745 on 6 Dec 13. Click the Changes tab for the details on contributions by Andrew and others.

(https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Rowley-745)

Glenn also found this exchange on Twitter.
(https://twitter.com/DrKatyBarnett/status/1387737165195403268)


Perhaps the last word should go to Thomas. In his will in 1805 he refers tp "my five natural children begotten in the body of Elizabeth Selwyn namely Isabella Rowley Thomas Rowley John Rowley Mary Rowley and Eliza Rowley"

Letter from Pam Fulton

I wouldn’t call Simeon wicked. After all, Elizabeth Selwyn was also a convict. She had to make a life for herself and managed, at the age of 18, to attach herself to a much older army officer on board the Pitt (probably after his wife had died during the voyage). She managed to get herself assigned to Rowley as his housekeeper when they landed and went on to have children with him (the first, Isabella, 9 months after landing) although they never married. Rowley  got out of the army in 1800 when he was about 50 due to illness (he died 6 years later of consumption/TB). Simeon Lord was about the same age as Elizabeth who was in charge of Rowley’s convicts. Simeon was assigned to Rowley and was in his service in 1795 for sure. Rowley took a real liking to him, I believe taught him to read and write, and mentioned in a letter he would set him up in any business he wanted. We know Simeon became the wealthiest emancipist in the Colony, at one time employing over 1000 men, and he was into every enterprise going. So with an ailing protector about 26 years older than her, and a very successful protégé the same age who kept popping in on social and business visits, it’s quite on the cards that sparks flew between them, and Lo, Eliza was conceived in 1803. Rowley may not have known, as his will tells of his “five natural children begotten on the body of Elizabeth Selwyn” (natural meaning illegitimate owing to their not being married). Elizabeth may not have been sure who the father really was if she was still having relations with Thomas.

Regardless of all that, it helps with the provenance of the cameo/miniature painting that was apparently found in Rowley’s effects (and later, Elizabeth’s effects?) identified in the Pioneer Club as “Captain Thomas Rowley”. In the old days people would send miniatures of themselves to family or those who they admired. People didn’t keep/cherish miniatures of themselves. So I always wondered why Rowley kept a miniature of himself. I believe the miniature is misnamed. I’m sure it’s a miniature of Simeon Lord. I’m sending a photo I took with my i-pad showing a couple of pictures of Simeon Lord plus “Rowley”. You probably have a close up of the cameo/miniature and you can Google “Simeon Lord” and get close ups of him. It’s the same person! Look at the square face; Look at the hair: its parting; swept back on the sides etc. Also notice the tight little mouth. And if you remember the portrait of Thomas Rowley, the son: he has a long face with very dark hair. Also, Elizabeth obviously harboured affection for Simeon, and so would have kept the miniature he probably sent to Rowley or gave to her to remember him.

Has Rowley’s parentage been absolutely determined yet? Or connected to where he grew up: him naming his first farm Kingston – after Kingston on Thames? And his second farm Burwood. I haven’t delved in these files for several years. That brings up the eternal question: Why did he specifically join the NSW Corps in 1789 to risk travelling to the other side of the world  (8 months) to do garrison duty in a new penal colony? Unless the Thomas Rowley, convict, on the Neptune, was his son and the father joined up as a way of looking out for him. One thing I read in the Mitchell Library was a letter written to or by Surgeon Harris (Rowley’s friend and executor) filling the person in about Rowley, mentioning that Governor King “was displeased with Rowley because he took his son off the island”, meaning Norfolk Island that Rowley left in July 1800 after governing it for about 8 months. When I visited Norfolk, I stood where the Governor’s house once stood down at Sydney Bay and imagined Rowley and his family there and wondered why the NSW Governor was displeased Rowley took my ancestor, little Thomas aged 6, off the island. Now I know that Elizabeth Selwyn and the children stayed in Sydney while Rowley governed Norfolk as she was probably pregnant with Mary. The only explanation is Rowley’s son was a convict on Norfolk and he was able to take him back to Sydney. Thomas the younger subsequently seems to have disappeared into the sand.

The other photograph in the set I’ll send is an old Eliza Rowley Briggs b 1804 (or rather Eliza Lord Briggs).

Another fact left dangling is the name of Rowley and Selwyn’s first born: Isabella. It must have been significant but who was she named after?

Pam's Photographs
    Simeon Lord , The Miniature, and Eliza (Rowley) Briggs




Letter from Lynne Barnett


    To my mild astonishment I found my name mentioned on your website in a discussion upon the possibility of Simeon Lord’s being the father of Eliza Rowley. A link was made to an article written by myself and my daughter Katy Barnett, a Professor of Law at Melbourne University. It was published in The Australian Law Journal late in 2022. A link was also made to my daughter’s twitter feed. I thus thought I should write to you giving my thoughts on the issues raised.\
    The paper to which you linked was an academic work and did not deal with Eliza’s parentage. The fact that we believe Simeon Lord to be her father was included merely as a footnote to the overall story. It was one foot note out of 146 (but a very interesting one in my opinion!). The article was about the Burwood Ejectment Case, a legal matter in which the Rowley family were involved in the 1830’s. Burwood Estate, a property which had belonged to Thomas Rowley, had been sold in 1812, but twenty years later the sale was voided, and the owner ejected, even though he was a bona fide purchaser  Rowley family historians generally report this as a good thing, but this was not the view at the time in legal and political circles. The decision was seen to undermine confidence in the security of transactions in the Colony and it created political furore and ongoing disputes which lasted to the end of the decade. Early in 1840 Dowling CJ, the first Judge in Equity, was appointed. He had been one of the judges on the Burwood case. In a Court of Equity, the Rowley family would not have won their case. In our paper we suggest that the Burwood case was a contributing factor to the creation of the Judge in Equity in NSW.
    I would humbly suggest that people interested in the history of the Rowley family might enjoy reading our paper. They can gloss over the law stuff, but the underlying story is a rollicking colonial tale, beginning with the Rum Rebellion. As well as the Rowley siblings lots of well-known people were involved – John Macarthur, Simeon Lord, George Johnston, John Harris, Thomas Moore, William Charles Wentworth, and Governors William Bligh, Lachlan Macquarie, and George Gipps. 
    Back to Eliza Rowley (1804 – 1882) and her parentage. She was the youngest child of Elizabeth Selwyn and (supposedly) Thomas Rowley.  I am her great-great-great granddaughter.  I am a member of Ancestry, and had my DNA tested by that organisation several years ago. I also had my parents tested. My Dad, who died in 2021 aged 94, was Eliza’s great-great grandson. When I looked at Dad’s and my matches, I noted that we were matched to (i.e. shared DNA with) descendants of Eliza’s siblings Thomas Rowley II and Mary Lucas. That was to be expected. We were also matched to many descendants of Eliza and her husband Henry Sparrow Briggs, which was also to be expected.
    However, what I did not expect was that Dad and I had matches to (i.e. shared DNA with) descendants of Simeon Lord. My Dad, being one generation further back into the past, had more and better matches than I. He had matches with descendants of three of Simeon’s children - Francis, Simeon junior and Sarah Ramsay. The obvious conclusion was that Simeon Lord was the father of Eliza. Soon afterwards I was contacted by two other Eliza descendants. One was Lyn Venn who was mentioned on your site, and the other was a woman with whom I had been in correspondence for many years on Rowley genealogy. Both women are great x 4 granddaughters of Eliza. We had all noticed the same phenomenon – we were matched to descendants of Simeon Lord.
    Between the three of us we had such a large group of Eliza descendants (ourselves, family members, shared matches on Ancestry) who shared DNA with descendants of Simeon Lord that we came to the inevitable conclusion that Simeon was the father of Eliza. We are matched to descendants of Thomas II, Mary, and Eliza Rowley through their mother Elizabeth Selwyn. But we are also matched to descendants of Simeon Lord because he was Eliza’s father. You noted that someone has changed the data on Wikitree to include Simeon. I have also noticed that some people have changed their family trees on Ancestry. I have not done so because I felt it needed a lengthy explanation to justify the change, and I’m a bit lazy!
    Glenn Rowley asks whether we excluded the possibility of Rowley being the father of Lord’s children. Thomas Rowley died on 27 May 1806 from consumption. Lord’s oldest daughter Sarah was born on 3 March 1806, not long before his death. The rest of Lord’s eight children with Mary Hyde were born well after Rowley’s death, and so no, we did not consider this possibility.
    Did Thomas know? Perhaps not. Or maybe he was inclined to give Elizabeth the benefit of the doubt. He listed Eliza by name in his will as one of his five natural children begotten on the body of Elizabeth Selwyn. Eliza herself appears to have had no idea. In her death notice in 1882 she was proudly described as the youngest daughter of Captain Thomas Rowley. She gave two of her children the middle name Rowley. If Elizabeth Selwyn had been sleeping with the two men at the same time, she may not have been sure who the father was.  As for Simeon, who knows! After Thomas’s death Elizabeth Selwyn and her young family were in financial difficulty and creditors circled. Amongst them was Simeon Lord. For example, on 3 May 1814 he was plaintiff in a case in the Court of Civil Jurisprudence against George Johnson and John Harris, the executors of Thomas Rowley. The court found for Lord, and the defendants Johnson and Harris were ordered to pay him damages of £53. 4. 10½ and costs of £4. 16. 10, to be levied from the effects of the deceased (Rowley). This was perhaps not the action of a man with feelings for Elizabeth and Eliza.   

    What were the circumstances of Elizabeth and Simeon’s liaison? How can we possibly say! In all histories it is stated that Simeon Lord was assigned to Thomas Rowley and that he did such a good job he was freed early, and Rowley set him up in business. I have been unable to find any records of Lord being assigned to Rowley or of his being emancipated. The evidence comes from a letter written by Henry Waterhouse to Sir Joseph Banks on 10 June 1806 (i.e. 15 years after Simeon’s arrival in Sydney). He was writing, rather enviously I think, about the amount of money Lord would possibly make from a shipment of seal skins. He said:
    “When I arrived in the Reliance at Port Jackson in 1795 Simeon Lord was a convict in the service of Capt. Rowley of the New South Wales Corps, or had just left him, whether his time of servitude being out, or he was emancipated. From his good conduct Capt. Rowley told him if he set up in any business he would assist him, in consequence he commenced Baker Retailer of Spiritous Liquor.”
    Rowley would have continued to deal with Lord after his emancipation. It was common for officers of the “Rum Corps” to use agents such as Lord to sell the liquor and general merchandise they (the officers) had bought in bulk. Officers and Gentlemen did not engage directly in trade! In 1800 Lord petitioned the Governor for permission to buy goods directly from a ship, thus bypassing the officers. In January 1801 he was appointed public auctioneer. He became one of the leading merchants in Sydney, and in 1803 began building his large three storey house next to the Tank Stream.
    On 11 September 1803 an advertisement appeared in the Sydney Gazette. A quantity of East India Tobacco was to be sold by auction by Simeon Lord “by order of Captain Rowley.” Eliza’s birthday is always given as 25 April 1804. If this date is correct, it means that the auction occurred about eight months before Eliza was born.
    By the way, is there anyone on this site who can give me a primary source for the date of Eliza’s birthday. The same date is given in all family trees, but everyone I ask for their source just gives me the name of someone else who lists that date.
    I am inclined to agree with Frank Clune that Mary Muckle was the daughter of Thomas Rowley. Mary was born on 25 June 1804, two months after Eliza. Her mother Jane was a convict.  I think that Mary herself believed that our Thomas Rowley was her father. She died on 12 April 1885, a very wealthy childless widow. I have a transcript of her death certificate. On it her father was recorded as Thomas Rowley, gentleman. No mention of a soldier! The informant was Dr Henry William Jackson, who had been her doctor since 1875. In an obituary (SMH 15 August 1885) it was stated that Jackson “not only attended her professionally almost daily but became her trusted counsellor in the management of her property and was invariably consulted about everything which in any way interested her.” Thus, it is very likely that she told him who she believed to have been her father, and he recorded this on her death certificate. Mary’s estate was worth over £80,000. Jackson was well rewarded by “handsome legacies and allowances”, but the bulk of her estate went to charity. Mary was a pious woman and a great philanthropist. If she were Rowley’s daughter, it is ironic that she was the most financially successful of his children.  
    By 1805 things seemed to have settled down for all the parties in this tangled web.  Thomas Rowley wrote his will on 5 February 1805. The beneficiaries were the five natural children (including Eliza) as well as their mother Elizabeth Selwyn. Maybe there was a sting in the condition imposed upon Elizabeth. She got her share “as long as the said Elizabeth Selwyn shall continue sole and unmarried and does not live in cohabitation with any man.”
    In 1805 Simeon Lord began a relationship with Mary Hyde, a convict who had arrived in NSW in 1798.  Their first child was born on 3 March 1806. They had seven more children born over the next 15 years. They married in 1814 and were together until Lord’s death in 1840. Mary had previously been in a relationship with a business partner of Lord’s who had died at sea in 1802. She had two children from this relationship whom Lord adopted.
    Jane Muckle, the mother of Mary also settled down. By 1806 she was free by servitude and living with Archibald McKillup, a publican who had arrived in NSW in 1804.  They stayed together until Janes’s death in 1834. Archibald died a year later. The couple had married in 1826. They had no children of their own and it was the property inherited from both her mother and her stepfather that formed the basis for Mary’s wealth.
    I am convinced by the DNA evidence that Simeon was the father of Eliza. However, we know nothing about the circumstances of her conception. We can imagine a raft of scenarios – but this can only be unprovable speculation. Some Rowley family researchers are romantic souls who picture the relationship between Thomas Rowley and Elizabeth as a great love story. However, we know nothing about the true nature of their relationship, and probably never will.
    Poor Elizabeth and Simeon. How could they have ever imagined that 220 or so years after the event a technique (DNA analysis) would arise which would expose their liaison!

 

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