William
Whitford and Martha Manning
Parents
: Thomas Whitford
and Mary Scott
John and Sarah Manning
William Whitford (b 1745 London,
m Martha Manning 1771)
Martha Manning (1750 Romford Essex)
William Whitford (b 1771)
Martha Whitford (b 1772)
Thomas Whitford (b 1776)
Mary Whitford (b 1778)
Mary Ann Whitford (b 1779 Westminster, m
Joseph Farr 1806 St George Hanover
Square London, d 1859 Southgate Middlesex)
Thomas
Farr (1824 Southgate, m Hannah Martin 1849 Camden Town, London, d 1901 St
Kilda Vic)
Edwin Farr (b 1858 Ballarat, m Louisa Jane Briant 1884 Presb Manse Ballarat, d 1943
Northcote)
Winifred
Emma Farr (b 1890
Northcote, m Norman Thompson 1918, d 1994 Preston)
An email from Judy Holmes gave us
Mary Ann Whitford's family
The entry in the
family bible reads as follows:-
Thomas Whitford
Born 22nd August 1710
Married 14th
June 1736 to MaryScott, Born 26th July 1707
The following
children by her
Daughter Ann
Born 4 Dec 1737. Died 23rd Nov 1741 aged 3yr 11mth 20day
Son William Born
13th Oct 1739. Died 2nd Sept 1741 aged 1yr 10mth 19day
Son Samuel Born
1st Dec 1740
Son Thomas Born
2nd Jun 1742. Died 28th June 1823 aged 81yrs
Daughter Mary
Born 16th Nov 1743
2nd Son William
Born 3 Dec 1745
Son John Born
23rd July 1747 and Died 16 days old
Son James Born
16th Dec 1748. Died 9th March 1752
__________________________________________________________________
William
Whitford's children as taken by TW
William, Son of
William Born 25th Oct 1771
Martha Daughter
Born 22nd Dec 1772
Thomas Son Born
23rd April 1776
Marian Daughter
Born 16th Sept 1779
Registered at St
Margarettte Westminster
__________________________________________________________________
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Now there are 2 possibilites whether TW was Mary Ann's grandfather
Thomas Whitford b1710, or her uncle Thomas Whitford b 1742.
Thomas Whitford
(sen) didn't die until 20 Feb 1792 and he was in London, but I
don't know how old Mary Ann and her siblings were when they were
'taken in' and TW(sen) would have been in his 70s.
On the other hand Thomas Whitford(jun) b 1742 married Elizabeth
Head on 11 Apr 1769 (at St Margarets Westminster) but after the
birth of his 1st daughter Martha in Oct 1770 took his family to
Haverfordwest, Wales. to further his career as a watchmaker, and
was still in that town in 1780 when his 8th child Samuel was born.
However, in July
1781 the family had returned to London in time for the birth of
another son George and remained in London at No 2 Smithfield bars.
So maybe the reason for the family's return was to look after
Williams's children.
Up until now I had always assumed that it was Thomas(sen) that had
taken William's children, and that they were somehow the children
of his brother. But looking at it now and comparing the dates, it
seems to make a lot more sense that it was Thomas(jun) who opted
to look after his brother's children.
There is one IGI record of Martha Whitford b 22Dec 1772,
Christened 03Jan 1772 (I think they must mean 1773) Parents
William Whitford and Martha. But although the birth date matches
for his first daughter I don't know how relevant this record is as
the IGI have another record of a Mary Whitford born of the same
parents being christened on 08 Mar 1778. Now I suppose that could
have been a daughter that died and then the couple went on to to
have Mary Ann in Sept the following year. Either way that is the
only clue as to the identity of Mary Ann's mother.
Ancestry
has a marriage for William Whitford
William Whitford m Martha Manning 25 Dec 1771 St
Saviour, Southwark Surrey
Note that our William's first daughter was Martha
However quite a few trees in Ancestry have the 3rd Dec 1745 William
with a spouse of Sarah Bramsdon (no marriage date)
LDS
A parent search in the IGI on William and Martha gives
Martha Female Christening: 03 JAN
1772 All Hallows Staining, London, London, England - This
record has a birth of 22 Dec 1772
Thomas Male Christening: 12 MAY
1776 Spitalfields Christ Church, Stepney, London, England
Mary Female Christening: 08 MAR
1778 Saint Andrew, Holborn, London, England
Looking for a birth for Martha Manning yeilds
Female Christening: 29 JUL
1750 Romford, Essex, England, parents John and
Sarah, which looks like her, as the witness to the marriage of
William and Martha was John Manning
GR
David Feustell's Tree
Has Martha married to William Coppen, b
1751.
LDS Family
search and David's tree shows this couple producing 5 children
(Martha William Ann John and Elizabeth) in Romford 1775 to 1791.
Martha's maiden name is never given
Cannot find
a marriage for William and Martha in the LDS
Comment LR
We have to go with The Whitford/Manning
marriage. The children tie up with the family bible. The marriage is
at the right time.The m,arriage witness ties us back to the Romford
christening..
The Whitfords were wealthy (see Thomas Whitford's will), so
geography is not such a big obstacle. By implication, the Martha who
married William Coppen probably wasn't Martha Manning
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Thanks to Judy Holmes for kick
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