Joshua Turner (b Huddersfield, Yorkshire 1839, m Elizabeth
Stephenson 1862 Newcastle-on-Tyne, d 1921 Melbourne)
m Jane Batty (nee Brackson) 1903 St Kilda)
Elizabeth Stephenson (b Newcastle-on-Tyne 1838, d
1899 Melbourne)
Hannah Elizabeth
Turner (b 1864, m Miller, d 1931 Redcliff St Mary Bristol) Mary Louisa
Turner (b abt 1868 Newcastle-on-Tyne, m John Thompson 1887
Newcastle-on-Tyne, d 1901 N Fitzroy Vic) Norman Thompson (b 1888
Newcastle-on-Tyne, m Winifred
Emma Farr 1918 Northcote Vic, d 1932 Thornbury Vic)
Joshua Turner (b abt 1868, d 1871 South Sheilds)
Edward Turner (b 1873, m Hannah Ann McBride 1905 Melbourne, d 1961
Melbourne)
John Willie Turner (b 1875, m Grace Mabel Meldrum 1905 Fitzroy Melbourne, d
1964 Regent Melbourne)
Three chldren came to Australia (except Joshua
who died as a child, and Hannah)
1890 Joshua (father) and son Edward arrived on
the Port Caroline (what an adventure for the 16 year old Edward)
Elizabeth (mother) was still in England in the 1891 Census
(April), but her death certificate suggests she came to Oz in 1892
1893 Mary arrives on the Australasian after
being widowed in the same year, accompanied by her two son
and J W Turner
This J W Turner gives his
age as 22, wheras he is only 18. An alternative with exactly the
right age is
1901 John Turner who arrived in Sydney on the
Runig
Hannah seems to be generating a cable to
England in her father's probate document (1921)
Joshua Turner's application for Probate in 1921 by Edward
Stephenson Turner lists
Surviving
Children : Edward Stephenson Turner, John Willie
Turner and Hannah Elizabeth Miller
His grandchildren, being the
children of his daughter Polly Thompson, Fred Thompson
and Norman Thompson who are his only surviving next of kin
An 1860 Edition of "The law for Wills and
Executors" has passed down in the family. Photos : CoverTitlePreface
Joshua and Elizabeth's Story
Joshua was born in Huddersfield, Yorkshire in
1839. Huddersfield is a long way from Newcastle-on-Tyne, but the
Turner family moved between 1851 and 1861 to Elswick,
Newcastle-on-Tyne.
Elizabeth was born in Newcastle-on-Tyne in 1838.
Elizabeth's family were long time Newcastle-on-Tyne residents. Her
parents were born there in 1807.
Joshua and Elizabeth were married in 1862. and
had five children. Joshua followed his father's profession of
Whitesmith*. In 1881 Elizabeth was an Upholstress and eldest
daughter Hannah was a dressmaker. Joshua came to Melbourne with son
Edward on the Port Caroline in 1890. I cannot find a convincing
record for Elizabeth arriving in Australia., but she was still in
Newcastle on Tyne in the 1891 Censuc
Joshua and Elizabeth were
joined in 1893 by children Mary and John. Mary came with
John and her two young children after her husband died. We have no
idea why at age 52 Joshua and Elizabeth left children and
grandchildren and migrated to Australia. Ann was living at home as a
dressmakeri 1881. Ann and Edward were still alive in 1899. Joshua
and Elizabeth lived in the same suburb (North Fitzroy) as daughter
Mary. Joshua made much of the iron lace found on houses and
verandahs in Fitzroy and Northcote (suburbs of Melbourne) (Gwen
Smalley).
Joshua remarried in 1903 to a widow Jane
Batty. When she married, Jane had 8 children, 5 still living
They took over the care of Mary's children Norman and Frederick
after their mother died. Joshua died in 1924. *A whitesmith is a
person who works with white or light-colored metal (such as tin)
and does finish work, such as filing and/or polishing, on iron to
remove black oxides. Whitesmith can also refer to the person who
polishes or finishes the metal rather than forging it. - Wikipedia
Joshua Turner and second wife Jane
Starting Information
Death Elizabeth Turner, 15
apr 1899, N Fitzroy Vic, aged 61 years, Asthma, in Vic 7 years,
Married aged 24 to Joshua Turner, Children: Anne Elizabeth 37,
Mary Louisa 34, Joshua (dec), Edward 26, John Willie 24
Father Edward Stephenson, furniture maker, mother Anna Death Mary Louisa Thompson 5
Oct 1901, N Fitzroy Vic, of Phthisis exhaustion
Father Joshua Turner blacksmith, Mother Elizabeth Stephenson, born
near Newcastle on Tyne, 7 years in Vic
Married Newcastle on Tyne, at age 22 to John Thompson, children
Norman, Frederick Marriage Joshua Turner22 July 1903 St Kilda, age
64, of Huddersfield, Yorkshire and Jane Bathy
Joshua: Blacksmith, Riley St Fitzroy , Parents Joshua Turner and
Mary Inman (Joshua 3 living 2 dead children)
Death Joshua Turner 23 Jun 1921 Melbourne, aged 84 ,
blacksmith, of senility
Father Joshua Turner, mother unknown, Born Huddersfield, Lived 29
years in Vic,
Married Newcastle on Tyne aged 21 years, to Elizabeth Stephenson,
Children: Joshua (dec), Hannah 57, Louisa (dec), Edward 49,
John William 46
1841 Census
Dock St,
Huddersfield
All
born Same County
Joshua TURNER
35
Whitesmith (b 1805)
Mary
TURNER
30
(b 1810)
Joseph TURNER
8
(b
1832)
Louisa TURNER
6
(b 1834)
Frances TURNER (F)
4
(b
1836) Joshua TURNER
2
(b
1838)
Alfred
TURNER
3
months
(b
1841)
For Elizabeth Stephenson, see her parent's page.
1851 Census
132 Zetland St,
Huddersfield
Born
Joshua
TURNER
Head M
45
Whitesmith Huddersfield (b abt
1805)
Mary
TURNER
Wife
M
42
Alverthorpe, YKS (b abt 1808)
Joe William
TURNER
U
18
Huddersfield
(b 1832)
Louisa(spelt Louezer!) TURNER
U
16
Huddersfield
(b 1834) Joshua TURNER
U
12
Huddersfield
(b 1838)
Alfred
TURNER
U
10
Huddersfield
(b 1840)
Luke
TURNER
U
8
Huddersfield
(b 1842)
Henry
TURNER
U
1
Huddersfield
(b 1849)
Joseph
FELIX
39
Equ??????
France
Jeniver(?)
FELIX
30
France
Missing, present 1841 Frances TURNER
(F)
Huddersfield
Alverthorpe, appears to be a suburb of Wakefield, about twelve miles
E of Huddersfield
1861 Census
11 Myrtle Terr, Elswick, Newcastle on Tyne,
Westgate
Born
Mary TURNER
Head Mar
52
YKS (b 1808) Joshua TURNER
Son
22
Whitesmith
Huddersfield,
YKS (b 1838)
Luke TURNER
Son
17
Whitesmith
Huddersfield, YKS (b 1843)
Henry TURNER
Son
4
Tailer
Huddersfield,
YKS (b 1856)
William H TURNER
Son
8
mon
Huddersfield,
YKS (b 1860)
Note Mary is not described as Widow, and her husband is back in the
71 census.
Yes Henry does seem to be described as "Tailer" in the census
1871 Census
Could not find Joshua(Jnr) and Elizabeth
1881 Census
82 Blenheim St, Westgate, Newcastle, Parish of St
John
Born Joshua Turner
Head
M 42
Whitesmith Huddersfield,
Yorkshire (abt 1838) Elizabeth Turner Wife
M
42
Upholsteress Newcastle
(abt 1838)
Hannah E Turner Dau
U 18
Dressmaker Newcastle
(abt 1862)
Mary L Turner
Dau U
15
Newcastle
(abt 1865)
Edward S Turner Son
U
8
Newcastle
(abt 1872)
John W Turner
Son U
5
Newcastle (abt 1875)
1891 Census
Westgate Rd, Newcastle on Tyne Elizabeth
Turner 53
Head
Newcastle,
Northumberland John W
Turner
15 Son Solicitors
Clerk
Jarrow, Durham, England Margaret Scott Elizabeth Little
Boarders, Domestic Servants
Acknowledgements
Thanks to Glenis Crocker for all the stuff in her research notes and
the photos of Joshua's book. Thanks
to Gwenda Booth for her information on John Willie Turner and the
Turners generally
Research Notes
Melb directories. Did parents and daughter live together?
Shipping records: get fiche 511 p11 and 525 p1, Still to find
Elizabeth. NSW?
Interestingly Batty is a name that crops up in the Baptism and
marriage records in Huddersfield, Jane came from Laycock,
about twenty miles N of Huddersfield. Batty was her married name
though she was born Brackson - but LDS and Ancestry both seem to be
almost completely Brackson free zones/
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