Joshua Turner and Elizabeth
Stephenson
Parents
Joshua Turner and Mary Inman
Edward Stephenson and
Hannah Pitt
Joshua Turner (b Huddersfield,
Yorkshire 1839, m Elizabeth Stephenson 1862 Newcastle-on-Tyne, d
1921 Melbourne)
m Jane Batty (nee Brackson) 1903 St Kilda)
Elizabeth Stephenson (b Newcastle-on-Tyne 1838, d
1899 Melbourne)
Hannah Elizabeth Turner (b 1864, m Miller, d
1931 Redcliff St Mary Bristol)
Mary Louisa
Turner (b abt 1868 Newcastle-on-Tyne, m John Thompson 1887
Newcastle-on-Tyne, d 1901 N Fitzroy Vic)
Norman Thompson (b 1888
Newcastle-on-Tyne, m Winifred
Emma Farr 1918 Northcote Vic, d 1932 Thornbury Vic)
Joshua Turner (b abt 1868, d 1871 South
Sheilds)
Edward Turner (b 1873, m Hannah Ann McBride
1905 Melbourne, d 1961 Melbourne)
John Willie Turner (b 1875, m Grace Mabel
Meldrum 1905 Fitzroy Melbourne, d 1964 Regent Melbourne)
Joshua and Elizabeth's Story
Joshua was born in
Huddersfield, Yorkshire in 1839. Huddersfield is a long way from
Newcastle-on-Tyne, but the Turner family moved between 1851 and
1861 to Elswick, Newcastle-on-Tyne.
Elizabeth was born in Newcastle-on-Tyne in
1838. Elizabeth's family were long time Newcastle-on-Tyne
residents. Her parents were born there in 1807.
Joshua and Elizabeth were married in 1862.
and had five children. Joshua followed his father's profession
of Whitesmith*. In 1881 Elizabeth was an Upholstress and eldest
daughter Hannah was a dressmaker. Joshua came to Melbourne with
son Edward on the Port Caroline in 1890. I cannot find a
convincing record for Elizabeth arriving in Australia., but she
was still in Newcastle on Tyne in the 1891 Censuc
Joshua and Elizabeth were
joined in 1893 by children Mary and John. Mary came
with John and her two young children after her husband died. We
have no idea why at age 52 Joshua and Elizabeth left children
and grandchildren and migrated to Australia. Ann was living at
home as a dressmakeri 1881. Ann and Edward were still alive in
1899. Joshua and Elizabeth lived in the same suburb (North
Fitzroy) as daughter Mary. Joshua made much of the iron lace
found on houses and verandahs in Fitzroy and Northcote (suburbs
of Melbourne) (Gwen Smalley).
Joshua remarried in 1903 to a widow
Jane Batty. When she married, Jane had 8 children, 5 still
living They took over the care of Mary's children Norman
and Frederick after their mother died. Joshua died in 1924.
*A whitesmith is a person who works with white
or light-colored metal (such as tin) and does finish work,
such as filing and/or polishing, on iron to remove black
oxides. Whitesmith can also refer to the person who polishes
or finishes the metal rather than forging it. - Wikipedia
Joshua Turner and second wife Jane
Three chldren
came to Australia (except Joshua who died as a child, and Hannah)
1890 Joshua (father) and son Edward arrived on
the Port Caroline (what an adventure for the 16 year old Edward)
Elizabeth (mother) was still in England in the 1891 Census
(April), but her death certificate suggests she came to Oz in 1892
1893 Mary arrives on the Australasian after
being widowed in the same year, accompanied by her two son
and J W Turner
This J W Turner gives his
age as 22, wheras he is only 18. An alternative with exactly the
right age is
1901 John Turner who arrived in Sydney on the
Runig
Hannah seems to be generating a cable to
England in her father's probate document (1921)
Joshua Turner's application for Probate in 1921 by Edward
Stephenson Turner lists
Surviving
Children : Edward Stephenson Turner, John Willie
Turner and Hannah Elizabeth Miller
His grandchildren, being the
children of his daughter Polly Thompson, Fred Thompson
and Norman Thompson who are his only surviving next of kin
An 1860 Edition of "The law for Wills and Executors" has passed
down in the family. Photos : Cover
Title Preface
Starting Information
Death
Elizabeth Turner, 15 apr 1899, N Fitzroy Vic, aged 61
years, Asthma, in Vic 7 years,
Married aged 24 to Joshua Turner, Children: Anne Elizabeth
37, Mary Louisa 34, Joshua (dec), Edward 26, John Willie 24
Father Edward Stephenson, furniture maker, mother Anna
Death Mary Louisa Thompson 5
Oct 1901, N Fitzroy Vic, of Phthisis exhaustion
Father Joshua Turner blacksmith, Mother Elizabeth Stephenson, born
near Newcastle on Tyne, 7 years in Vic
Married Newcastle on Tyne, at age 22 to John Thompson, children
Norman, Frederick
Marriage Joshua Turner 22 July 1903 St Kilda, age
64, of Huddersfield, Yorkshire and Jane Bathy
Joshua: Blacksmith, Riley St Fitzroy , Parents Joshua Turner and
Mary Inman (Joshua 3 living 2 dead children)
Death Joshua Turner 23 Jun 1921 Melbourne, aged 84 ,
blacksmith, of senility
Father Joshua Turner, mother unknown, Born Huddersfield, Lived 29
years in Vic,
Married Newcastle on Tyne aged 21 years, to Elizabeth Stephenson,
Children: Joshua (dec), Hannah 57, Louisa (dec), Edward 49,
John William 46
1841 Census
Dock St,
Huddersfield
All
born Same County
Joshua TURNER
35
Whitesmith (b 1805)
Mary
TURNER
30
(b 1810)
Joseph
TURNER
8
(b
1832)
Louisa
TURNER
6
(b 1834)
Frances TURNER (F)
4
(b
1836)
Joshua TURNER
2
(b
1838)
Alfred
TURNER
3
months
(b
1841)
For Elizabeth Stephenson, see her parent's page.
1851 Census
132 Zetland St,
Huddersfield
Born
Joshua
TURNER
Head M
45
Whitesmith Huddersfield (b abt
1805)
Mary
TURNER
Wife
M
42
Alverthorpe, YKS (b abt 1808)
Joe William
TURNER
U
18
Huddersfield
(b 1832)
Louisa(spelt Louezer!) TURNER
U
16
Huddersfield
(b 1834)
Joshua TURNER
U
12
Huddersfield
(b 1838)
Alfred
TURNER
U
10
Huddersfield
(b 1840)
Luke
TURNER
U
8
Huddersfield
(b 1842)
Henry
TURNER
U
1
Huddersfield
(b 1849)
Joseph
FELIX
39
Equ??????
France
Jeniver(?)
FELIX
30
France
Missing, present 1841 Frances TURNER
(F)
Huddersfield
Alverthorpe, appears to be a suburb of Wakefield, about twelve
miles E of Huddersfield
1861 Census
11 Myrtle Terr, Elswick, Newcastle on Tyne,
Westgate
Born
Mary TURNER
Head Mar
52
YKS (b 1808)
Joshua TURNER
Son
22
Whitesmith
Huddersfield,
YKS (b 1838)
Luke TURNER
Son
17
Whitesmith
Huddersfield, YKS (b 1843)
Henry TURNER
Son
4
Tailer
Huddersfield,
YKS (b 1856)
William H TURNER
Son
8
mon
Huddersfield,
YKS (b 1860)
Note Mary is not described as Widow, and her husband is back in
the 71 census.
Yes Henry does seem to be described as "Tailer" in the census
1871 Census
Could not find Joshua(Jnr) and Elizabeth
1881 Census
82 Blenheim St, Westgate, Newcastle, Parish
of St
John
Born
Joshua Turner
Head
M 42
Whitesmith Huddersfield,
Yorkshire (abt 1838)
Elizabeth Turner Wife
M
42
Upholsteress Newcastle
(abt 1838)
Hannah E Turner Dau
U 18
Dressmaker
Newcastle (abt 1862)
Mary L Turner
Dau U
15
Newcastle
(abt 1865)
Edward S Turner Son
U
8
Newcastle
(abt 1872)
John W Turner
Son U
5
Newcastle (abt 1875)
1891 Census
Westgate Rd, Newcastle on Tyne
Elizabeth Turner 53
Head
Newcastle,
Northumberland
John W Turner
15 Son Solicitors
Clerk
Jarrow, Durham, England
Margaret Scott Elizabeth Little Boarders, Domestic Servants
Acknowledgements
Thanks to Glenis Crocker for all the stuff in
her research notes and the photos of Joshua's book. Thanks to
Gwenda Booth for her information on John Willie Turner and the
Turners generally
Research Notes
Melb directories. Did parents and daughter
live together?
Interestingly Batty is a name that crops up in the Baptism and
marriage records in Huddersfield, Jane came from Laycock,
about twenty miles N of Huddersfield. Batty was her married name
though she was born Brackson - but LDS and Ancestry both seem to
be almost completely Brackson free zones.
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