Yvonne Bean Research
"re
John Bowles - In the 1841 Census, it said that John was
"Army", so looked on the Kew site & found 2
possibilities: one from Wilton & the other, Winterbourne
Gunner. Looked at both Parish records & found in each a
bapt in circa 1776 for a John Bowles / Boles. I'm
going to get in the marriage at Tardebigg with crossed
fingers that there is more info on it - regiment / parish.
If the Regiment is mentioned, then I can get the Army papers."
9 Oct 2006
"The marriage record came in
- it just says that both were of this parish, which leads me
to think that it's the wrong marriage. If he was Army (which
he should've been in 1803) usually the marriage records say
so.
No satisfaction with the
Army papers that I got in - basically I'm looking for the
date of death for both John Bowles. This is usually
written on the Pension papers." 10 Oct 2006
"I looked at the marriage of
John Bowles & Mary Snow on the Parish records - LDS
film. I don’t think that this is the right
couple. John Bowles was in the Army from the 1790’s -
& would’ve been still in them at the time of the
marriage. No where on the registers does it mention
anything about the Army only that they were ‘of the Parish
of Tardbig’. Usually it would give the Regiment.
I also had this marriage as we know that Mary was born in
Worcestershire, but having 2nd thoughts, now.
There are 2
different John Bowles that can be our guy:
Covering
dates 1792
Scope and
content JOHN BOWLES
Born
WILTON,
Wiltshire
Served in other regiment(s)
unspecified; 4th Foot Regiment
Discharged aged 35 after 15
years 9 months of service
Access conditions Normal
Closure before FOI Act: 30 years
Closure status Open
Document, Open Description
Held by The National
Archives, Kew
Possible:
Covering dates 1796-1814
Scope and
content JOHN BOWLES
Born
WINTERBOURNE
GUNNER, Wiltshire
Served in 15th Dragoons
(Light)
Discharged aged 37
Access
conditions Normal Closure before FOI Act: 30
years
Closure status Open
Document, Open Description
Held by The National
Archives, Kew
Possible:
Par: George &
Mary born:
11.11.1775 bapt:
29.09.1776 Wilton by Salisbury
Par: Charles &
Elizabeth
bapt: 10.03.1776 Winterbourne Gunner
I’m now awaiting Army
Pensioner records, which hopefully, will give a date of
death to tell us which one is ours."
13 Oct 2006
Review
In the light of Yvonne Bean's research,
where are we?
(1) John Bowles
We have the choice of the Christenings in Winterbourne Gunner
and Wilton. John was living in Winterbourne Earles in the 1841
census. Winterbourne Earles, Gunner and Dauntsey are less than
a mile apart, while Wilton is about six miles away, and on the
other side of Salisbury. We would have to go with the local
boy as a 75% chance?
(2) Mary Snow
Her 1851 census entry is the key. It is mis-indexed in
Ancestry.com under Mary Davis (b abt 1784), but the text is
Mary Bowles, and her place of birth is Worchestershire. The
town is not very legible.
Ancestry has read it as Boarcanght.. Yvonne has read it as
Boarcaught, which looks better.
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Either way, it doesn't seem to exist. In a discussion to
Yvonne's query, Helen
Verrall suggests as possibles
BROUGHTON HACKETT - BROMSGROVE - BOCKLETON. An LDS search
for christeninig of Mary Snow in Worchestershire 1780-90
gives just one entry 26 Sep 1781, in Bromsgrove,
Worcester (parents Thomas and Mary Snow), so I reckon that is
her. Bromsgrove is at the junction of the M5 and the M42 north
of Worchester. Tardebigge, location of the John/Mary marriage
is two miles WSW of Bromsgrove, so I think this is our Mary,
and that is the marriage. Again it is the only marriage
that LDS has for John Bowles and Mary in the
county 1798-1808. That smells of overoptimism, but the 1851
census does have her living in Wiltshire and born in
Worchestershire. Her age is pretty close.
Email in from Michael Mar 2013
I was looking at your page on John and Mary Bowles and noticed
the bit about the place called Boarcaught (1851 census) that
no one has been able to locate. I wonder if it is a
misspelling of Burcot in Worcester (the census enumerator may
not have been able to spell it as it wasn't local) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burcot,_Worcestershire.
I've been googling for ages trying variations of the name and
then thought to try the Wikipedia lists of place names in
Worcester and found it there http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_places_in_Worcestershire.
Comment Les Rowley: This strengthens
the case for Mary Snow quite a bit? Put Mary Snow in as a
75% chance?
Acknowledgemnts
Yvonne Bean's research has given us most
of what we know here, and Michael for the email
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